Delusion (moha)
Parent topic: Unwholesome Roots
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Metta Retreat, Session 1Ajahn Pasanno – Sep. 9, 2008

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3. “Could you please explain about the death process…how quickly does rebirth occur?” [Death] [Rebirth] // [Recollection/Death] [Delusion] [Self-identity view] [Recollection] [Impermanence] [Not-self] [Theravāda] [History/Early Buddhism] [Sutta] [Vajrayāna] [Clinging] [Culture/Thailand] [Chanting] [Goodwill] [Relinquishment] [Ceremony/ritual] [Kamma]

References: Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 55: Five Recollections; Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 12: The body is impermanent... [Similes] [Craving]

Simile: Fire blown by the wind (MN 72: Aggivacchagotta Sutta)

Story: A former monk asks Ajahn Chah about working with dying people to give them the opportunity for wholesome rebirth. [Ajahn Chah] [Teachers] [Fierce/direct teaching]

Quote: “I practice dying.” — The Dalai Lama [Dalai Lama]


Metta Retreat, Session 2Ajahn Pasanno – Sep. 10, 2008

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2. “What happens when someone carefully builds the fire, but it turns into a forest fire–uncontrollable–and the person experiences mania, delusions, and paranoia? What is the spiritual treatment?” [Mental illness] [Delusion] // [Precepts] [Association with people of integrity] [Generosity] [Becoming] [Medicinal requisites] [Thai] [Work]

Quote: “One of the first spiritual treatments is to get them to stop meditating.” [Meditation]

Recollection: Ajahn Pasanno learned by experience that meditation is not a panacea. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Wat Pah Nanachat]


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9. “Could you talk more about working with the hindrance of doubt?” [Doubt] // [Fear] [Aversion] [Sensual desire] [Mindfulness of body] [Tranquility] [Mindfulness of feeling] [Right Speech] [Delusion]

Simile: A dish of muddy water placed in a dark cupboard (SN 46.55). [Similes]


Metta Retreat, Session 3Ajahn Pasanno – Sep. 11, 2008

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6. “Can you speak about working with fear and loss of ego identity, fear, and death?” [Fear] [Self-identity view] [Death] // [Goodwill] [Aggregates] [Impermanence] [Delusion] [Faith] [Eightfold Path] [Perfections] [Recollection]

Reference: Description of dukkha. [Suffering]

Quote: “We respond to teachings on liberation and Nibbāna with a curious sense of fear and trepidation.” — Ajahn Mahā Boowa speaking about Ajahn Mun [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Ajahn Mun] [Liberation] [Nibbāna] [Family] [Clinging]


Tudong Stories at Spirit Rock, Session 2Ajahn Pasanno – Jun. 2, 2011

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7. “Is there a distinction between the awareness and the naming? Does naming bring intellect or self into play? Is confusion the nagging sense of self or self-consciousness?” [Knowing itself] [Perception] [Noting] [Self-identity view] [Delusion] // [Investigation of states] [Proliferation] [Relinquishment] [Equanimity] [Doubt] [Mindfulness of body] [Continuity of mindfulness]


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8. “In the trio of attraction, aversion, and confusion, what does confusion mean?” [Unwholesome Roots] [Delusion]


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9. “I have an internal voice that's concerned whether I'm doing it right; if I'm not doing it right, then I won't get where I want to go. Is this delusion?” [Eightfold Path] [Perfectionism] [Delusion] // [Suffering] [Fear] [Mindfulness of body] [Volitional formations]


Brightening the Mind, Session 2Ajahn Yatiko – Aug. 19, 2012

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3. “I've heard that devas and brahmas aren't able to become enlightened. Is that right?” Answered by Ajahn Yatiko and Ajahn Pasanno. [Liberation] [Deva] [Recollection/Devas] // [Delusion] [Heedlessness] [Sutta] [Great disciples] [Four Noble Truths]

Sutta: SN 56.11: Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta

Story: Ajahn Sudanto's pūjā on Mount Hood. [Pacific Hermitage] [Pūjā] [Culture/Natural environment] [Merit] [Goodwill]


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6. “Are angels devas...[audio unclear]?” [Christianity] [Deva] [Recollection/Devas] // [God] [Delusion]


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7. Comment: Maybe recollection of the devas isn't frequently taught because it could slip into a desire for heaven. [Craving for material existence] [Deva] [Recollection/Devas]

Response by Ajahn Yatiko. [Sutta] [Hell] [Kamma] [Delusion]


The Gradual Training, Session 1Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Yatiko – Oct. 20, 2012

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3. “How does one look at intention?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Yatiko. [Volition] [Right Intention] // [Four Noble Truths] [Discernment] [Delusion]

Quote: “Sometimes you don't want to look at intention too closely because you'll convince yourself of anything.” — Ajahn Pasanno [Delusion]


The Gradual Training, Session 2Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Yatiko – Oct. 20, 2012

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3. Comment: You spoke about suffusing the body with extreme well-being. But I've been in states like that and my body seems to disappear. [Jhāna] [Happiness] [Rapture] [Mindfulness of body] [Gradual Teaching] [Meditation/Unusual experiences]

Response by Ajahn Pasanno.

Quote: “It isn't so much the experience of extreme well-being that is the goal. It's the ability to gain clarity and stability so that one can see through the experience as something that is uncertain or impermanent, has a changing nature. The mind often wants to disregard that. The tendency to identify self with experience on a refined mental level is tempered by the body experience.” [Clear comprehension] [Concentration] [Knowledge and vision] [Impermanence] [Delusion] [Self-identity view] [Relinquishment]

Follow-up: “Are you saying you can become attached to these states?” [Clinging]


Right Livelihood, Session 1Ajahn Pasanno – Apr. 21, 2013

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7. “What about people whose livelihood falls into one of these categories [AN 5.177] but they are convinced that it's good for the world or that it had to be done?” [Volition] [Right Livelihood] // [Delusion]


Abhayagiri Monastic Retreat 2013, Session 3Ajahn Pasanno – Nov. 25, 2013

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2. “Is there something in the body that will help you identify the defilement of delusion?” [Mindfulness of body] [Delusion] // [Self-identity view]


Abhayagiri Monastic Retreat 2013, Session 8Ajahn Pasanno – Nov. 30, 2013

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22. “What is the difference between ignorance and delusion?” [Ignorance] [Delusion]


Abhayagiri 2014 Winter Retreat, Session 10Ajahn Pasanno – Jan. 19, 2014

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3. “When Ajahn Mahā Boowa says that the peaceful mind is the gathering place for the defilements, are these the underlying tendencies?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Jotipālo. [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Concentration] [Unwholesome Roots] // [Knowledge and vision] [Relinquishment] [Delusion] [Stages of awakening]


Abhayagiri 2014 Winter Retreat, Session 17Ajahn Pasanno – Jan. 28, 2014

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1. “I am curious about ways to know if one is lying to oneself and what to do?” [Truth] [Delusion] // [Suffering] [Discernment] [Bases of Success]

Recollection: Ajahn Chah said the fastest way to enlightenment is to look directly at the mind, point your finger, and say "Liar!" [Ajahn Chah] [Liberation] [Delusion] [Proliferation]


Abhayagiri 2014 Winter Retreat, Session 31Ajahn Pasanno – Feb. 17, 2014

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13. “Is that where when one isn't meditating per se but where virtue would come in to inform whether we have slipped or not?” [Virtue] // [Upasikā Kee Nanayon] [Ajahn Chah] [Conscience and prudence] [Similes] [Spiritual friendship]

Quote: “The defilements have their wisdom also.” — Ajahn Chah [Unwholesome Roots] [Discernment] [Delusion]


Abhayagiri 2014 Winter Retreat, Session 34Ajahn Pasanno – Feb. 20, 2014

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2. “Which of the three unwholesome roots is most prominent when the mind is lazy?” [Energy] [Unwholesome Roots] [Sloth and torpor] // [Delusion]


Abhayagiri 2014 Winter Retreat, Session 35Ajahn Pasanno – Feb. 21, 2014

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5. “Could say more about seeing the unwholesomeness or shadow?” [Unwholesome Roots] // [Mindfulness] [Idealism] [Delusion]


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11. “Ajahn Chah distinguished between the peaceful mind and the mind that has appeased the kilesas. But when the kilesas are present, is it useful to be peaceful about them?” [Ajahn Chah] [Concentration] [Unwholesome Roots] [Tranquility] // [Suffering] [Delusion]


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13. “Can you recommend any practices to develop honesty with ourselves?” [Truth] [Delusion] // [Unwholesome Roots] [Direct experience]

Quote: “You can't take yourself too seriously. That's really deadly.” [Humor] [Self-identity view]

Quote: "Do we have to sweep all of this?" "No, just sweep what's in front of your broom." [Wat Pah Nanachat] [Ajahn Pasanno] [Cleanliness]


Abhayagiri 2014 Winter Retreat, Session 37Ajahn Pasanno – Feb. 25, 2014

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5. “When I look at neutral objects, dullness often arises. Is this suffering?” [Feeling] [Contact] [Sloth and torpor] [Unskillful qualities] [Suffering] // [Craving not to become] [Delusion] [Ignorance] [Mindfulness] [Clear comprehension]

Comment by Ajahn Jotipālo: Lack of desire is not enlightenment. [Desire] [Liberation]


Thai Forest Tradition, Session 2Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo – Jun. 14, 2014

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7. Reading: "Discernment versus self-deception" from An Unentangled Knowing by Upasikā Kee Nanayon, p. 102. Read by Ajahn Pasanno. [Discernment] [Delusion] [Thai Forest Tradition]


2014 Thanksgiving Monastic Retreat, Session 4Ajahn Pasanno – Nov. 25, 2014

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20. “The delusional gravity of the mind has grown stronger as I have aged. I can space out now like never before! Do you have suggestions for cutting through this spacey delusion?” [Delusion] [Ageing]


2014 Thanksgiving Monastic Retreat, Session 5Ajahn Pasanno – Nov. 26, 2014

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8. “Perception can be very slippery. I experience it as a veil, view, filter, or lens that colors a situation. The traditional Buddhist teaching of, “tinted glasses” and “bowls of water,” is very helpful. However, identification is strong. Do you have suggestions for how to see through perception? How to know when it is coloring my world view?” [Perception] [Self-identity view] [Delusion]


Abhayagiri 2015 Winter Retreat, Session 5Ajahn Karuṇadhammo – Jan. 10, 2015

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3. “Is mindfulness of the body fabricating a wholesome mental image of the body as opposed to an unwholesome image? But how can we know the body in any way other than vedanā?” [Mindfulness of body] [Visualization] [Feeling] // [S. N. Goenka] [Mindfulness of breathing] [Postures] [Clear comprehension] [Right Mindfulness] [Calming meditation] [Insight meditation] [Delusion] [Characteristics of existence]

Quote: “The availability of insight is through stepping back from the assumptions that we make, whether it's around the body or feeling or mind or the sense of self.” [Relinquishment]


Abhayagiri 2015 Winter Retreat, Session 13Ajahn Pasanno – Jan. 22, 2015

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2. Appreciation for the elements meditation in Knowing and Seeing by Pa Auk Sayadaw, pp. 116-120. Comment by Ajahn Kaccāna. [Elements] // [Mindfulness of body]

Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Investigation of states] [Delusion]


Abhayagiri 2015 Winter Retreat, Session 22Ajahn Pasanno – Feb. 2, 2015

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6. Comment by Ajahn Ñāṇiko: There is the concern that we practice meditation to make something happen. [Meditation/General advice]

Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Neutral feeling] [Delusion]

Sutta: MN 44: Cūḷavedalla Sutta, The Small Discourse Giving an Elaboration. [Feeling] [Unwholesome Roots]


Abhayagiri 2015 Winter Retreat, Session 25Ajahn Ñāṇiko – Feb. 8, 2015

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2. Comment: Ajahn Ṭhānissaro encourages mindfulness of the body. [Ajahn Ṭhānissaro] [Mindfulness of body] // [Delusion]

Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Mindfulness of breathing] [Jhāna]


Abhayagiri 2015 Winter Retreat, Session 45Ajahn Karuṇadhammo – Mar. 15, 2015

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7. Discussion about neutral feeling and delusion. Led by Beth Steff, Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Neutral feeling] [Delusion] [Suffering] // [Happiness]


Suttas You've Never Heard Of, Session 1Ajahn Pasanno – Jun. 25, 2016

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7. Comment: I find it difficult to find the line between what you can change and what you can't. [Politics and society] [Everyday life] [Equanimity]

Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Clear comprehension] [Delusion]


Thanksgiving Retreat 2016, Session 3Ajahn Pasanno – Nov. 21, 2016

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9. “How would you describe romantic love? And how do you know if it is real or wishful thinking?” [Relationships] [Delusion]


Thanksgiving Retreat 2016, Session 4Ajahn Pasanno – Nov. 22, 2016

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7. “As I get deeper insights how conditioned the mind is, there is a sense of burden being released but also a doubt began to arise: If the mind is conditioned, how is it even possible to arrive at the Unconditioned? Does free will even exist or am I just pushed around by kilesas? If the trick is to recognize that there is no free will, how can I sincerely believe that when I’m making choices to practice and do wholesome deeds, they really matter and it’s not my delusion? Please dispel my doubts!” [Doubt] [Unconditioned] [Delusion]


Thanksgiving Retreat 2016, Session 7Ajahn Pasanno – Nov. 25, 2016

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5. “Can you please give some guidance on recognizing delusion in the mind? Greed and aversion seem easier to spot.” [Delusion]


Two Kinds of Thought and the Removal of Distracting Thoughts, Session 3Ajahn Pasanno – Jun. 4, 2017

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7. “Do thoughts by themselves have karmic consequences?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Kamma] [Directed thought and evaluation] // [Perception] [Feeling] [Volition] [Self-identity view]

Sutta: MN 56: Upāli

Follow-up: “Is it good kamma to decide not to act on an unskillful thought?” [Skillful qualities]

Story: A person talks with Ajahn Liem, analyzing their consistently bad thoughts and obsessions. He replies, "If you see a pile of excrement, why would you want to stick your nose in it?" Told by Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Ajahn Liem] [Unskillful qualities] [Similes] [Fierce/direct teaching] [Culture/Thailand] [Thai Forest Tradition]

Comment: I think my problem is that my nose is already in there, and I don't want to realize that I'm so stupid that it's hard to get it out. [Delusion]


Practice in a Global ContextAjahn Pasanno – Aug. 12, 2017

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1. Quote: “That person is making me suffer....If they would just smarten up and do what I like, then I would be happy. My life would be smooth and peaceful again, just like it always was before.” [Cause of Suffering] [Humor] [Politics and society]

Quote: “Don't believe your mind. It's a liar and a cheat.” — Ajahn Chah [Ajahn Chah] [Heart/mind] [False speech] [Delusion]


Teen Weekend 2017Ajahn Pasanno – Sep. 2, 2017

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9. “What were you like when you were 18?” [Ajahn Pasanno] // [Delusion] [Spiritual search] [Intoxicants] [Relationships]


The Teaching and the Training, Session 8Ajahn Pasanno – Mar. 26, 2018

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16. Comment: When one visits different monasteries and sees the same thing happening over and over, it's harder to believe "It's not me." [Delusion] [Monastic life] [Saṅgha]


The Teaching and the Training, Session 9Ajahn Pasanno – Mar. 27, 2018

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6. “How do we perceive which ruts we are stuck in and which tools to use to get out of them? Are there tools besides dhutaṅgas to use when we're stuck in strong habits?” [Delusion] [Craving] [Monastic life] [Ascetic practices] // [Ajahn Pasanno] [Faith] [Three Refuges] [Self-identity view]


The New Ajahn Chah Biography, Session 3Ajahn Pasanno – Apr. 21, 2018

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4. “How can we skillfully take apart our preconceived notions and assumptions without undermining our ability to think?” [Delusion] [Knowledge and vision] [Directed thought and evaluation] // [Noble Truth of Suffering] [Cause of Suffering] [Proliferation]


The Path of Practice, Session 2Ajahn Pasanno – Jun. 16, 2019

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11. Comment: I'm improving my skill at seeing the greed or aversion when there are pleasant or unpleasant feelings, but I often don't see the neutral feeling state so clearly. [Mindfulness of feeling] [Feeling] [Unwholesome Roots] [Neutral feeling] [Delusion] // [Mindfulness of body] [Restlessness and worry] [Fear] [Present moment awareness]

Response by Ajahn Pasanno.

Quote: “That whereby one is a conceiver of the world, a perceiver of the world, that is the world.” — SN 35.116 [Nature of the cosmos] [Proliferation] [Perception]


Developing Skill in Reflective Meditation, Session 1Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo – Dec. 1, 2019

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9. “What would you use for someone who is extremely confused and angry? Lovingkindness seems so far away.” Answered by Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Delusion] [Aversion] [Goodwill] // [Concentration] [Spaciousness]


Developing Skill in Reflective Meditation, Session 2Ajahn Ñāṇiko and Ajahn Pasanno – Dec. 1, 2019

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3. “You mentioned the example of the monk who wanted to commit suicide and then he remembered his virtue and that uplifted him. In the Saṃyutta Nikaya there are a few instances where monks committeed suicide, but the Buddha said they attained Nibbāna (SN 22.87 Vakkali; SN 35.87 Channa). How is that possible?” Answered by Ajahn Ñāṇiko. [Monastic life] [Suicide] [Sutta] [Buddha/Biography] [Recollection] [Nibbāna] // [Jhāna] [Māra] [Saṃsāra] [Delusion]